Very clean, but if you were working for me and taking that long to create a panel, we would need to have a talk. I expect our work to be tidy, but not excessively so. In a couple of years, it will blend in with all the other panels. I’m not a fan of Ty raps in the panel. Prone to causing issues.
To me it seems like somebody taking pride in their work. I’m not a fan of all the zip ties but if you have the time, this is the way it should be done.
Anyone who has served knows that this is unnecessary and will be a huge hassle to troubleshoot with all those wraps. Sure, it may look cool, but it’s not difficult to make a panel look good without all the extra time and zip ties.
I would hate to be a master electrician doing residential work, to be honest. I can’t even imagine going back to that. But, he did leave room for additions, so you shouldn’t need to mess with any of that for the life of the panel.
I’ve never understood the point of using zip ties in a panel. No matter how carefully I try to thread them through, they always end up getting in the way when I need to access something later. It’s like the wire just disappears once the cover is on. I know this because I’ve gone back to check on work I did over 30 years ago.
Isn’t it interesting how some people complain about the lack of work ethic, yet when someone actually puts in the effort, they try to tear them down and push them to take shortcuts? It’s all about doing the bare minimum, charging the maximum, and then blaming others for any issues that come up. 😂😂
Did I mention that there is no work ethics? I did not intend to belittle anyone. If you took the time to read and understand, you would see my point. I have been a contractor for over 35 years and have a good grasp of ethics. I was a master electrician for 50 years and an industrial contractor for 35. It’s hard to find competent help these days. Have you ever run a multi-million dollar company? Or any company for that matter?
Huh? Sounds like your typical self-centered person who doesn’t understand what it really takes to run a business. I bet you wouldn’t have even made it past the interview, let alone thrive in a competitive setting.
I once had a panel board from the 70s that still looks as good as new. I even removed Westinghouse equipment from the Hoover Dam for an upgrade and it was still wired neatly. Let it be! lol
It is completed quite nicely. Just remember to avoid tightening the lines. Tightening them could cause issues and prevent accurate readings during troubleshooting.
When a Low Voltage guy believes he’s scoring points for his craftsmanship but has never experienced a residential or commercial service call. He would definitely step up his game after dealing with a few of those calls.
There’s no way this only took 15 extra minutes, trust me, quality work like this takes hours. I’ve seen it firsthand on other sites. Perfecting something like this definitely doesn’t happen in just a few minutes.
Who do you think you are? There’s nothing wrong with the work, and honestly, no one really cares about your opinion. Tie wraps work just fine in panels too!
It’s amusing how even a master like can’t seem to spell ‘dining’ correctly. It happens to the best of us!
Emma Chavez
1 month ago
Extremely pleasant
James Byrd
1 month ago
Eh, the cover goes on and nobody will even see it. At first I thought it was a waste of time, but maybe this is what you bid for. It looks good, although I would get in trouble for: using tie wraps, relocating the grounds (hopefully they aren’t too short), and taking so long. 😂 I do appreciate clean work that is visible! I would definitely get reprimanded for this.
Hey, Mike Mcald, that’s a good point and I’m happy for him. It may come off as self-congratulatory, no disrespect intended. However, once the cover goes on, no one cares or sees it. If I’m troubleshooting, I would be frustrated.
Mike Mcald understands the importance of leaving a good impression on both the inspector and the homeowner. Positive feedback can go a long way in this field.
Dealing with a challenging metal junction box with short wires is tough, especially when there’s no option to power down. And then there are the Wagos to contend with!
Knows the importance of impressing his boss, especially since his father passed away. He hopes his work will receive praise and approval, but ultimately, passing inspection is the main goal.
As a retired electrician with 45 years of experience, I remember a valuable lesson from an old timer about the importance of quality work, even if it’s not visible. I think the panel in question looks great, regardless of any negative feedback.
I didn’t mean to disrespect anyone with my comments. I come from a family of electricians and enjoyed working with my father. When I saw the picture, it reminded me of those days. I may have been too direct, but I was focused on the quality of the work. I believe I can achieve the same results without visible wires or tie wraps, but it will take me longer. I always strive to do things right the first time and take pride in my work, despite facing criticism.
Santiago Salinas
1 month ago
An 8-hour sub panel?
Amador Menchaca
1 month ago
Although that terrible knockout without a seal is a downside. Everything else is great.
This is seriously clean. Definitely one of the best I’ve seen.
Leonard Coleman
1 month ago
These guys really make an effort to stay organized, so why not consider getting a label maker? It gives off a much more polished look compared to using random bits of wire insulation.
Fidel Rico
1 month ago
It takes just as long to do a quality job like this as it does to do sloppy work like some of you who might be criticizing this. My boss actually values work like this because it reflects positively on the company.
Sarah Bouchard
1 month ago
It would be even better if you used Y/ Pvc insulated earthing cable.
Hey , unless you can access the panel without taking off the cover, it’s hard to figure out where things go if they’re not labeled. Will you really spend time looking for one when you need it?
And cuntertop. Haha. I realize it’s just blocked by a wire. But I still found it hilarious.
Leah Stevens
1 month ago
If Ty wrap could wrap Ty wraps, how many Ty wraps could Ty wrap wrap?
But seriously, that’s impressive. This guy really took his time!
Elvira Contreras
1 month ago
Time is money, why are those grounds so limited with only a 30 circuit panel? SMH. But overall, it’s pretty good.
Veronica Garcia
1 month ago
Time wasted by man
Wanda Mckinney
1 month ago
I’m not a big fan of those hard right angle bends in some of the wires. I prefer smooth sweeping bends. The handwriting on the sheath/labels looks really nice.
Marianne Bouchard
1 month ago
This AI seems fake haha. If it’s legit, then it’s quite impressive
Lampman
AI probably wouldn’t have misspelled ‘dining room’… haha
Brandon Rodriquez
1 month ago
I’m curious, how much time did it take him to accomplish that?
Camila de la Fuente
1 month ago
What a waste of time… I can maintain cleanliness and still achieve an excellent look without meticulously bending every wire as if it were an EMT conduit. If I were wiring my own house, maybe I’d consider doing it this way though, haha.
Why do you think it’s pointless to take pride in your work, riffin? I don’t think you could achieve the same results by following the method you suggest.
Tom, check out my photos in the previous response. My work is definitely not bad. However, in my opinion, this is just a waste of money and doesn’t look great. Those bonds may be perfectly straight, but the wiring for the load center seems unnecessary.
Riffin, oh man, these guys charge by the hour! They’re the ones that terrify the average person just trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you, nothing comes for free in America. If you agree to take on that kind of job, you better be prepared to pay up.
It’s kind of like a welding test. Show them 2 welds. One pays $18 per hour and the other pays $36 per hour. I would have to figure out a way around NEC 408.38, as I would want that to be prominently displayed for me to admire every time I walk through the garage.
Abbie Young
1 month ago
I’m experienced in doing panels like this and can complete them faster than others. Quality work is my signature, and as a master electrician, I have no excuse for doing a poor job. My customers always appreciate the high standard of work I deliver!
Aiden Anderson
1 month ago
Very nice but what’s the reason for skipping spaces on the bus bar?
Alejandro Aguirre
1 month ago
What’s going on with the front grounds?
Lester Flores
1 month ago
Indonesia prefers the grounds in the front, but it disrupts the disconnection process
He missed adding an entire ‘N’ in the dining room, and the Fridge should be labeled “Reefer” for sure. I’ve never actually seen wire stretchers, but I bet they were used in this job.
Avery Robertson
1 month ago
I’m really impressed with your strong work ethic.
Ernest Harris
1 month ago
Functionality comes first. I would have to let go of my employees if they spent time on that. Keep it tidy, but don’t be too obsessive.
Daniel Young
1 month ago
It doesn’t really take any longer to do it that way. Nice work!
Jack Lam
1 month ago
You did a fantastic job, thumbs up! 👍👍
Tommy Graham
1 month ago
What’s the deal with the circles
Terry Reyes
1 month ago
Meant to be covered up and rarely seen again. We’re not constructing pianos.
Those grounds would really bother me!
Arguably the best I’ve ever seen
Crisp.
The backyard is where the grounds should be located.
Should definitely be included in the decision-making process, but it’s not mandatory
Yeah, it’s just personal preference.
Very clean, but if you were working for me and taking that long to create a panel, we would need to have a talk. I expect our work to be tidy, but not excessively so. In a couple of years, it will blend in with all the other panels. I’m not a fan of Ty raps in the panel. Prone to causing issues.
Yeah, is the guy who did this. He’s a ian and he owns his own company.
Can be as OCD as he wants with his money. As for me, I have ADHD. 😂 Just a different way to manage things!
Completely disagrees.
If can maintain such a strong work ethic and complete tasks promptly, I would definitely value having a worker like him on my team.
Caleb, there’s no rushing when it comes to this. We have to take our time with the work.
I agree with him neat and clean is one thing, but this is to the extreme and it’s extremely wasteful of time
Right
To me it seems like somebody taking pride in their work. I’m not a fan of all the zip ties but if you have the time, this is the way it should be done.
How long does it take to make 12 solid look good, seriously, making the wires straight and clean looking added 15 minutes to the job, maybe
That’s more than just taking pride in your work, I have a few hours to kill
What if that’s the guys own panel at his house? He very neatly did a display panel that looks pretty good. Just appreciate that maybe
And the moment something needs fixing in there, it’s going to be ruined by those zip ties.
Hey , do you think that took an extra 15 minutes? I’m willing to bet that panel took a minimum of 2 to 3 hours.
Are you Russian, ?
Is definitely on the right track! What suggestions do you have for making it easier?
Anyone who has served knows that this is unnecessary and will be a huge hassle to troubleshoot with all those wraps. Sure, it may look cool, but it’s not difficult to make a panel look good without all the extra time and zip ties.
It took about 3 hours to complete the panel sloppily, but he estimates it would take around 3 hours and 15 minutes to do it neatly.
Doesn’t work here anymore.
Is always wasting money, unless it’s on his own house.
Why would there be a service echo?
Really puts conductors and Ty raps through some intense training. Quick question – did you forget to trim a panel?
I would hate to be a master electrician doing residential work, to be honest. I can’t even imagine going back to that. But, he did leave room for additions, so you shouldn’t need to mess with any of that for the life of the panel.
Hey Ben! I don’t want to sound like a know-it-all, but what’s the deal with putting in a panel and then trying to troubleshoot it? Just curious!
Troubleshooting may not always be about the same company, try thinking outside the box. 👍
Nonsense that wasted an additional 15 minutes
I sure have!:) I’ve had to correct errors on panels because some people don’t take their job seriously and tend to make a mess most of the time.
Is the best! 💯💯💯
I typically opt for Velcro wraps over tie wraps.
I would do it like that in 30 minutes or less, just ask
Why did do that?
I don’t think would agree.
The homeowner gets to choose who they want to call down the road. Just a reminder, this is a residential property, not commercial or industrial.
Yep, .
I’ve never understood the point of using zip ties in a panel. No matter how carefully I try to thread them through, they always end up getting in the way when I need to access something later. It’s like the wire just disappears once the cover is on. I know this because I’ve gone back to check on work I did over 30 years ago.
Isn’t it interesting how some people complain about the lack of work ethic, yet when someone actually puts in the effort, they try to tear them down and push them to take shortcuts? It’s all about doing the bare minimum, charging the maximum, and then blaming others for any issues that come up. 😂😂
If and I were to have that conversation, I would kindly ask him to leave.
Did I mention that there is no work ethics? I did not intend to belittle anyone. If you took the time to read and understand, you would see my point. I have been a contractor for over 35 years and have a good grasp of ethics. I was a master electrician for 50 years and an industrial contractor for 35. It’s hard to find competent help these days. Have you ever run a multi-million dollar company? Or any company for that matter?
Huh? Sounds like your typical self-centered person who doesn’t understand what it really takes to run a business. I bet you wouldn’t have even made it past the interview, let alone thrive in a competitive setting.
Which bedroom is in?
Was in agreement. I prefer things to be organized, but spending so much time bundling the grounds seems excessive.
I once had a panel board from the 70s that still looks as good as new. I even removed Westinghouse equipment from the Hoover Dam for an upgrade and it was still wired neatly. Let it be! lol
Takes great PRIDE in his work! ❤️🤠👏
Tightening the line will not pass inspection in this case. Keeping it loose is acceptable.
I have occasionally used #14 black solid wire as temporary cable ties. Some end up becoming permanent.
Every panel will eventually require opening up for changes. The idea that it can be installed and never touched again is not realistic.
It is completed quite nicely. Just remember to avoid tightening the lines. Tightening them could cause issues and prevent accurate readings during troubleshooting.
Yeah, it’s definitely well done! And you’re absolutely right, that’s true too.
Is correct.
When a Low Voltage guy believes he’s scoring points for his craftsmanship but has never experienced a residential or commercial service call. He would definitely step up his game after dealing with a few of those calls.
There’s no way this only took 15 extra minutes, trust me, quality work like this takes hours. I’ve seen it firsthand on other sites. Perfecting something like this definitely doesn’t happen in just a few minutes.
Should have known better as a master that tying your hots together with wire creates excess heat and electromagnetic frequencies.
Sure, here is the gently rephrased text:
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Why
Perfect 90s though 😄
It may seem like a waste of time to you, but for him, it’s not because it’s his passion. It’s simple art for him.
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I agree, I personally built 5 homes and each of my own panels were meticulously clean work. It did take more than 15 minutes longer than usual.
I don’t believe that. It’s true craftsmanship 👌
Who do you think you are? There’s nothing wrong with the work, and honestly, no one really cares about your opinion. Tie wraps work just fine in panels too!
And his tie wraps 🤔
Seriously, what’s up with you? Just relax, take another puff, and get some rest. You’ll see things differently tomorrow. 😴
Hey , if you do quality work, time is never an issue! ⏰
The grounding on the circuit breaker line is not great, but everything else looks amazing. reat work, Apprentice! LOL
Ángel Alvarez was the master who created it.
Ángel Alvarez is a true master!
Hey there, just wanted to let you know that ary lenn is here.
It’s amusing how even a master like can’t seem to spell ‘dining’ correctly. It happens to the best of us!
Extremely pleasant
Eh, the cover goes on and nobody will even see it. At first I thought it was a waste of time, but maybe this is what you bid for. It looks good, although I would get in trouble for: using tie wraps, relocating the grounds (hopefully they aren’t too short), and taking so long. 😂 I do appreciate clean work that is visible! I would definitely get reprimanded for this.
Hey, Mike Mcald, that’s a good point and I’m happy for him. It may come off as self-congratulatory, no disrespect intended. However, once the cover goes on, no one cares or sees it. If I’m troubleshooting, I would be frustrated.
Mike Mcald understands the importance of leaving a good impression on both the inspector and the homeowner. Positive feedback can go a long way in this field.
Dealing with a challenging metal junction box with short wires is tough, especially when there’s no option to power down. And then there are the Wagos to contend with!
Knows the importance of impressing his boss, especially since his father passed away. He hopes his work will receive praise and approval, but ultimately, passing inspection is the main goal.
As a retired electrician with 45 years of experience, I remember a valuable lesson from an old timer about the importance of quality work, even if it’s not visible. I think the panel in question looks great, regardless of any negative feedback.
I didn’t mean to disrespect anyone with my comments. I come from a family of electricians and enjoyed working with my father. When I saw the picture, it reminded me of those days. I may have been too direct, but I was focused on the quality of the work. I believe I can achieve the same results without visible wires or tie wraps, but it will take me longer. I always strive to do things right the first time and take pride in my work, despite facing criticism.
An 8-hour sub panel?
Although that terrible knockout without a seal is a downside. Everything else is great.
Yeah, that’s the only thing that caught my eye
Dining room, you say?
This is seriously clean. Definitely one of the best I’ve seen.
These guys really make an effort to stay organized, so why not consider getting a label maker? It gives off a much more polished look compared to using random bits of wire insulation.
It takes just as long to do a quality job like this as it does to do sloppy work like some of you who might be criticizing this. My boss actually values work like this because it reflects positively on the company.
It would be even better if you used Y/ Pvc insulated earthing cable.
Took around 3 hours, I think.
Probably even more 😂
This definitely needs to be surrounded by Rich Mahogany
Seems like a massive time sink just to wire a few switches
If I were the customer… I’d be thrilled to have this panel
Once the cover is on, the labels won’t even be visible. Truly a waste of time.
Those instructions were not meant for you.
Hey , unless you can access the panel without taking off the cover, it’s hard to figure out where things go if they’re not labeled. Will you really spend time looking for one when you need it?
Relax, no need to get all worked up. The panel schedule usually does the job.
Refrigerator on an arc fault or FCI? ood luck with that! 😂😂
Too bad, but nice
Should have gone for a larger panel. If you’re going to install a panel, might as well go big or go home.
Rounds in the back need to be obtained
Over here in CO, the inspectors will fail your inspection if they find cable ties, they argue that they generate too much heat.
Yeah, they’re right, bundling wires does reduce capacity.
At the end of the day, you’re just a Residential Rat 😄
Reat job, man
When a control panel builder handles your residential electrical panel, you get results like this…
“Dinigroom” 😂😂💀💀
And cuntertop. Haha. I realize it’s just blocked by a wire. But I still found it hilarious.
If Ty wrap could wrap Ty wraps, how many Ty wraps could Ty wrap wrap?
But seriously, that’s impressive. This guy really took his time!
Time is money, why are those grounds so limited with only a 30 circuit panel? SMH. But overall, it’s pretty good.
Time wasted by man
I’m not a big fan of those hard right angle bends in some of the wires. I prefer smooth sweeping bends. The handwriting on the sheath/labels looks really nice.
This AI seems fake haha. If it’s legit, then it’s quite impressive
Lampman confirmed that he discovered it on an Instagram reel.
Lampman found this link to abriell Mendes’ Instagram profile.
If it’s on the internet, it must be real… It’s a nice job, I would jokingly drug test the electrician, haha. Nah, it’s all good
Lampman
AI probably wouldn’t have misspelled ‘dining room’… haha
I’m curious, how much time did it take him to accomplish that?
What a waste of time… I can maintain cleanliness and still achieve an excellent look without meticulously bending every wire as if it were an EMT conduit. If I were wiring my own house, maybe I’d consider doing it this way though, haha.
Riffin, why not approach every job as if you were working on your own house? I’ve never regretted taking the time to do it right 👍
Because customers don’t want to spend twice as much time on labor for a slightly better product that will be covered up.
I make them look good. My panels are like beautiful pieces of art, but there’s a distinction between beautiful and unreasonably perfect.
this picture shows that my work is more than satisfactory
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Why do you think it’s pointless to take pride in your work, riffin? I don’t think you could achieve the same results by following the method you suggest.
Tom, check out my photos in the previous response. My work is definitely not bad. However, in my opinion, this is just a waste of money and doesn’t look great. Those bonds may be perfectly straight, but the wiring for the load center seems unnecessary.
Riffin, oh man, these guys charge by the hour! They’re the ones that terrify the average person just trying to make ends meet. Let me tell you, nothing comes for free in America. If you agree to take on that kind of job, you better be prepared to pay up.
It’s cool and all, but it’s not really practical… What’s up with these connections?
For sure, riffin!
Riffin suggested that it would be helpful for troubleshooting if they all had a uniform appearance.
Riffin shared a piece of advice from one of his former bosses.
Reat job , thumbs up!
Reat job on the ice work
It’s kind of like a welding test. Show them 2 welds. One pays $18 per hour and the other pays $36 per hour. I would have to figure out a way around NEC 408.38, as I would want that to be prominently displayed for me to admire every time I walk through the garage.
I’m experienced in doing panels like this and can complete them faster than others. Quality work is my signature, and as a master electrician, I have no excuse for doing a poor job. My customers always appreciate the high standard of work I deliver!
Very nice but what’s the reason for skipping spaces on the bus bar?
What’s going on with the front grounds?
Indonesia prefers the grounds in the front, but it disrupts the disconnection process
This is one I completed a few years back
Attractive but typically the red comes in the 2nd stage not the 1st one. In my area, the power company wouldn’t connect.
You must be getting paid by the hour, huh?
Owner
He missed adding an entire ‘N’ in the dining room, and the Fridge should be labeled “Reefer” for sure. I’ve never actually seen wire stretchers, but I bet they were used in this job.
I’m really impressed with your strong work ethic.
Functionality comes first. I would have to let go of my employees if they spent time on that. Keep it tidy, but don’t be too obsessive.
It doesn’t really take any longer to do it that way. Nice work!
You did a fantastic job, thumbs up! 👍👍
What’s the deal with the circles
Meant to be covered up and rarely seen again. We’re not constructing pianos.