What is the recommended process for replacing an old service panel with a new combo panel, including framing the opening flush with brick and installing a new weather head or underground service?
Asked by Nicolas Campbell 
3 months ago
Last Updated: August 19, 2024
I’m thinking about updating this service panel to a new combo panel. I believe the proper procedure would be to remove the old panel, frame the opening flush with the brick, and then mount the new panel with a new weather head. Alternatively, we could consider doing underground service.
That makes sense. In my region, a shutoff is required after the main panel and before the interior panel.
Hey, Charlie mentioned that the new outside panel will have a main cutoff, and the inside panel already has one as well. So that’s like two cutoffs in total.
We’re not allowed to touch it around here. Only the hydro provider has that privilege.
Is the one providing the water?
In Canada, they refer to electricity as Hydro.
Oh I see… I had a feeling. Even with all the hydro in the PNW, we don’t specifically refer to it as hydro here.
You should definitely consider getting a professional involved with that. It’s really easy to get hurt. You’ll also need to have the code checked and get a permit.
Watch out, some folks on this forum get easily offended when you speak the truth.
Not my problem🤷♀️😁
When you consider all the factors at play in simply swapping out the panel, let alone transitioning from overhead to underground service… the building department will scrutinize that.
I concur. Having observed the process multiple times, I feel confident in my ability to handle a straightforward installation. Unfortunately, strict local regulations make it clear that tinkering with it would be highly illegal.
I constructed a home a couple of years back, fully wired it from the meter to the light switches. Everything passed inspections without any problems. While this may not be suitable for everyone, those with knowledge shouldn’t shy away from handling their own projects.
You could speak up or risk someone getting hurt or getting into a situation with locals for not following the rules. Warning people ahead of time allows them to make more informed decisions and possibly avoid trouble. Ultimately, they have to make the final call by weighing the advice and choosing what’s best for them. Developing this skill is important.
Out of curiosity, which country are you located in? I have come across similar installations before.
Trim the previous panel to align with the brick and put in a meter/main on top of it. You have the choice of sealing the edges with caulk for better protection, unless you want to involve a Mason for other options.
Utilize PVC piping to reach the point of attachment with a PVC weather head.
I didn’t catch the part about going underground. You should contact the power company to inquire about installing a box for underground access first.
Make sure to research the local codes and regulations before attempting any changes in this area. In many cases, the power company has jurisdiction over that part and you could get into trouble by messing with it. This is the case for our property. If you go ahead and replace it, you might face fines, insurance issues, and other consequences. Also, in a lot of regions, there are restrictions on homeowners working with power above a certain level. So while it might be feasible to do the work, an inspector could flag it. If you plan to sell or rent the property, you’ll need to obtain a permit and hire a licensed professional to handle the task.
In my area, homeowners aren’t allowed to get involved in this kind of work. It’s strictly for professionals. A neighbor of mine recently had a similar project done. He had his service relocated 3.5 feet closer to the power pole and had the lines routed underground from the pole to his house. He ended up spending $13,500 because he had to move the pole, which was roughly 30 feet away from his house.
Yeah, that’s definitely a challenging task for a homeowner, not an electrician. I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting most homeowners handle something like changing a pot light, let alone a service.
In Missouri, the owner has ownership of the box, riser, and weather head. The electric company, on the other hand, owns the meter and main lines. They’ll shut off the power to do any work, but before they switch it back on and install their meter, they’ll inspect everything and confirm that a licensed electrician handled the repairs, modifications, or replacement of the new service box, riser, and weather head.
Gary was saying that in other locations, the utility company will require proof of permit and inspection to confirm that everything is good to go – whether the owner gets it done or a licensed contractor.
Looks like someone decided to brick around the meter box and service drop. 🙄
Oh man, everything is hidden beneath layers of brick. And to make matters worse, there’s another original layer of brick under the current one 🙄
If you have the option to go underground, go for it. I did it and now I wouldn’t choose anything else.
Morris is definitely on board.
Sometimes DIY is better left to the professionals. There are plenty of reasons why you should hire one.
It all comes down to personal skill. It’s important to be aware of your capabilities.