Should I refund the homeowner who paid $3k for the work if I am unable to obtain a permit due to a potential violation?
Asked by Clemente Ayala 
3 months ago
Last Updated: August 17, 2024
So, I originally charged 3k for this job, but now the homeowner is asking for a permit. The issue is, I can’t actually get one. Any guesses on what the violation might be? Do you think I should refund the money?
Make sure you can open the panel to at least 90 degrees
Just make sure you have 3 feet of space to work in.
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If you’re silly enough to place a panel there, then yes, you should either get a refund or relocate it. Can you turn it around to face the opposite direction?
Just put in a new tank. At some point, an inspector had to approve that tank before it could go there in the first place. Sometimes there’s limited space and the water level isn’t above the panel. The panel can still be opened. It’s a tough decision.
I would expect the panel to be there before the HWT, otherwise OP must be not very smart
Both of these statements apply.
What was the thought process behind installing the panel in that location?
There is a water heater blocking it
Relocate the water heater, ensuring required panel clearances, sufficient combustion air, obtaining the permit and passing inspection.
Just a heads up about this particular task
You’re all set. Did you make sure to use a different name? Swap the SIM card to a new phone. It’s the usual procedure.
You might need to get a new simcard; the phone should be working fine after that. 😛 And Saul oodman would make a great attorney for that case too.
Having the water heater in front of the panel is a major problem
I think the code mentions that water lines can’t be directly above or in front of an electric panel. And if the panel and tank were already there, what more can the plumber do?
Ervace, if someone added that panel later, the responsibility is on them, not the plumber.
We really need to know the whole situation to figure out what the actual problem is.
You charge 3k and can’t even install a trim plate on the switch for him?
The electrical switch is missing a cover plate, but it’s an easy fix.
Integrity means doing the right thing even without a permit, which is rare nowadays
You’re absolutely right! Work should always follow the building code, regardless of permits.
Has no shame. The $3000 was nice, but the quality of work was lacking.
Is in agreement.
reat, I’ll get started on that right away.
It’s too near the electric panel.
Why do you think it’s a good idea to put a tank in that spot?
This violates the working space code.
Wasn’t dealing with the water heater obstructing the way a huge hassle?
That’s the issue with taking on side jobs without honesty. Some people will always try to cheat
Any reason why you can’t request a retroactive permit? Did you do everything correctly? They might complain, but as long as it’s done right, they won’t reject it… just remember to stay at least 3 feet away from the panel.
That’s hilarious 😄 you would expect it to be electric at least 😂
Which came first, the water heater or panel? 😆 I recommend upgrading to a tankless water heater mounted on the far wall. Do you already own a used Rheem tank? If the tank was there first, it must have been a pain terminating the wires.
If he doesn’t move the water heater, it won’t pass inspection, that’s his responsibility
I’m not so sure about that, .
One hundred and ten dollars and twenty-six cents
Make sure to put a cover plate on that switch.
What even is this, Jesus??
Hey, are you actually an electrician? I checked out your profile and didn’t really see much related to electrical work…
The real question is, what is good about it?
If you placed the panel with the water heater in place, then that responsibility falls on you. If the water heater was installed afterwards, advise them to relocate it.
Here are 3 issues to consider: 1. Insufficient clearance around the panel. 2. Lack of a disconnect for the water heater. 3. Missing cover for the light switch.
There’s no way to disconnect, that’s dangerous!!!!
I bet there is no way to disconnect because the circuit breaker is obviously visible near it 😂
What happens if that’s where the tank was originally placed before he switched it?
Relocate the water heater
It’s too near those water lines
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Three feet
You should consider getting a refund
Why not just relocate the water heater? It’s a much simpler solution.
Return every penny, you should have been more cautious.
Why would anyone attempt this in the first place? Only someone unqualified would make such a mistake if the water heater was already installed. It’s best to refund the money and steer clear of electrical work!
Moving the water heater shouldn’t be too difficult!
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I’ve come across this before. 🤷. Panel on top of a water heater.
Remove it and let it be.
The panel needs to be at least 3 to 6 feet away from the hot water heater.
Selling the house in its current condition would not be possible without addressing potential code violations.
Simply move the tank…
It would have been better to have a conversation with the customer and explain the situation regarding the permit beforehand to manage expectations.
Was it already there, and where is the vent supposed to go? Could it be relocated 3ft?
I’m curious if that water heater was already installed before you put in that panel???
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I assume the panel was placed after the water heater?? Having a 3ft workspace is taught early on in training, or it should be. If that’s the case, then it’s entirely your fault and you must find a solution. If the water heater was installed after the panel, you need evidence of dates and then the plumber is accountable for relocating it.