Is the mess in the house across the street from you as chaotic as it seems?
Asked by Ronald Meyer 
2 months ago
Last Updated: October 27, 2024
Hey, there’s a bit of a mess in the house right across from mine.
No plastic bushings here…..
You don’t need them on PVC, but I use them anyway.
I still use them, just for added protection.
That’s not true, but even if it was, you wouldn’t need one for the installation because it’s cables not individual conductors.
That’s accurate in my area.
I don’t think the inspector really enforces it. It’s probably still up to code though. I doubt your area has a legal amendment specifically for that. Whatever gets the job done.
… there’s no inspector around here.
While it may seem unnecessary for PVC, the code does not differentiate between rigid steel or PVC regarding bushings. They are mandatory. However, conductors are not at risk of shorting out on PVC, making it an unnecessary requirement.
I prioritize quality in my work and avoid taking shortcuts. Have a great day.
You do not require a plastic bushing on plastic pipe…
The code represents the bare minimum requirement. With over 30 years of experience, I take pride in my work and do not require your advice.
Stating “don’t need them on PVC” as if it applies universally is simply not accurate. In my county, you would fail for no bushing on any type or size of PVC MA.
For RACEWAYS with conductors 4 or larger, a cable with a cable clamp/connector and not a raceway does not need them.
I never said you shouldn’t use them. In fact, I agreed that he needed one. I also take pride in my work.
Hey Ryan, you know those plastic connectors? They can actually cause more harm than some metal ones. The utility company requires them, otherwise they won’t install the meter. They’re also pretty cheap, around a dollar.
Hey, just so you know, that’s on the service entrance, not the branch circuits. The utility company only checks things up to the meter.
Sure, Ryan erald, but it’s still necessary.
Just and only the new text: Sure, Ryan erald, but it’s still necessary.
Isn’t this supposed to be the service entrance?
Ryan, I understand where you’re coming from. Personally, I would add a bushing when looking at this picture. And I definitely wouldn’t do this kind of installation.
I agree with Kip C Betts Jr, but a bushing is still unnecessary.
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Looks like the bottom dwellers were really active that day.
That definitely cut down on time. I bet he wasn’t charging by the hour
You know what that texas home inspector always says in his videos, “that’s not how it’s supposed to be.” 😅
Or maybe… “That’s incorrect.”
Ood Ol’ Messed Up Texas
The previous 2” pvc romex connector
As long as the nipple is less than 18 inches
It varies depending on the inspector, but with the plastic bushings, you don’t need a PVC Inspectors or Words
Too much going on here
Seems correct to me
I’d say it’s probably around half a day’s worth of work, considering de-rating those circuits? 🤪
Is it in one of those two-story mobile homes?
You know, that’s the issue, these young folks nowadays don’t take pride in their work. They just do the bare minimum and get paid. According to the code, a fitting should have a bushing if the wire has #4 or larger conductors (cable isn’t excluded if it’s that big). The problem is, I’ve seen panels without bushings and the cable covers are torn because no one cares enough to go the extra mile.
Sorry, not installing any bushings!! I want to have job security fixing all the shoddy work out there. Just kidding, I’m too busy to correct your subpar work, do it properly or find another job.
The code specifies that RACEWAYS must contain conductors 4awg or larger. Cables do not need them when using a cable connector, only when inside a raceway.
Sorry to interrupt, but take another look at it. You might have misunderstood. I initially thought the same, but the final sentence explains it.
NEC 352.46 requires that a bushing or adapter be used to protect wires from abrasion when a conduit enters a box, fitting, or enclosure, unless the design of the box, fitting, or enclosure already offers sufficient protection.
Saw that again, thanks for confirming what I said. “Where a CONDUIT..”
‘s cast PVC fittings offer the same level of protection as cast PVC bushings. And if it has a cut end, then yes… but I’ve never come across a cast PVC threaded fitting with a sharp edge. 🤷♂️
Isn’t it crazy that the NEC doesn’t distinguish between PVC and other raceways? I don’t know where you all are getting this information from!
I totally agree, I’ve never used a bushing on PVC before. The bushing is just too dull compared to the TA.
Hey, you missed the last sentence where it clarifies the information. The NEC 352.46 states that a bushing or adapter must be used to protect wires when they enter a box, fitting, or enclosure, unless the design already offers adequate protection.
Appears to be just another house to me
This might go against section 312.5(C)
I think this installation is not very professional. Surprised inspectors are okay with it
You must have struggled to thread the electrical wires through a small hole
That’s just how it goes
Oh really?
Pretty easy to identify with the right tools
You get what you pay for – cheap price means cheap work