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Is it worth repairing broken tiles and grout or should we install LVP over existing tile to save time, money, and mess on a concrete slab subfloor?

Asked by Addison Jones
6 months ago
Last Updated: June 29, 2024

Hey there! So, we’re gearing up to put in LVP flooring throughout our whole house, which is currently covered in tile. The plan is to rip out all the tile, level out any uneven spots, and then lay down the LVP. I’m bracing myself for the mess and hard work that comes with removing all that tile – we’re talking about 1100 square feet here.

Now, my dad, who’s a pro at laying down floors (seriously, he’s done it in every place we’ve lived), thinks we could just install the LVP right over the tile. I’ve seen some folks do this and watched a few videos, but I’m not entirely convinced it’s the best route. Some of the tiles are starting to pop up and there are cracked grout lines in places. So, here’s the big question: would it be worth it to fix up those broken tiles and grout, then lay the LVP over the tile to save time, money, and a whole lot of mess? And if so, how would we go about that process?

Dad’s suggesting we just slap down the underlayment and then the LVP, but I feel like we might need to add a

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Jackson Parker

Rely on your Dad. Install the LVP directly on top of that tile. Use floor leveling compound to fill in any noticeable low or high spots.

Annabelle Bélanger

Think you might do well. Only main concerns I have are spot leveling, which is manageable, and any baseboards might need to be raised.

Elijah Morrison

If you opt for an LVP with a good quality underlayment, chances are you’ll be in good shape.

Dora Hudson

Using a thick underlayment could lead to the seams cracking.

Kuzey Özdenak

You can lay the vinyl over the tile with no issues. Just make sure to level any low spots and fill the grout lines with self-leveling material to create a smooth floor. Then, put down a 6 mil plastic sheet and install the flooring right on top with the pre-attached pad.

Jociano Nunes

I was thinking of doing that too, but with such a large grout joint, I think it’s best to float the entire floor with leveler. That way, the tile pattern won’t wear through the LVP. The LVP is 1/2″ thick, which might help, but why risk it?

Melike Gürmen

Installing LVP is a breeze as long as the surface is nice and level.

Blanca Marrero

We recently installed new flooring over our tile and it turned out great.

Blanca Marrero

Thanks a lot- this was back when we purchased the house

Blanca Marrero

Oh yeah, I totally understand. It was much more affordable to just lay vinyl plank over it.

Dora Hudson

I personally think laminate flooring would be a better choice over tile than LVP. It’s more forgiving and feels softer underfoot.

Florian Rodriguez

Do you really believe laminate is softer than vinyl?!? I think you might be mistaken, buddy

Dora Hudson

Vinyl is thin and plastic while laminate is made of compressed wood and allows for a thicker underlay to be laid down. Maybe there was a bit of confusion there on your end.

Dora Hudson

Hey , I’ve never seen a product that thick before. I’d consider using some self-leveler to fill in the tile seams. If your joints line up in those cracks, your vinyl joints will crack too.

Grace Li

I had the flooring put in over my kitchen tile. It wasn’t a huge area but it definitely saved me some time and money. The installer assured me it would be fine. Everything’s still looking good over a year, maybe two later.

Lody Happel

If you want to save time, take out the baseboards and trim the door for a more polished finish.

Tanya Welch

Hey , I’ve removed them in a previous house by scraping it all up and installing replacement tiles.

Donita Chatterjee

Hey , if the broken tiles will affect the installation (you can test it by installing over the affected area, using a whole box and then walking on it), you can pour leveler directly over the tile. It’s best to pour leveler over the tile, but not absolutely necessary if the broken tile doesn’t affect the flooring.

Gloria Flores

Hey, , don’t forget to clear away any broken pieces, vacuum, and grab a small bag of self-leveling concrete.

John Edwards

If there’s anything loose, I would remove it and then pour leveling compound into the gap…

Sijbrand Geleijns

I took out the tile in my main bathroom 2 years ago and it was a one-time thing. It was definitely one of the most challenging experiences physically and mentally 😂 I would just lay new tile on top.

Tom Risnes

Place it directly on the tile, I’ve tried it and it works really well.

Auguste Brun

First, I would remove the existing flooring and then proceed with the installation.

Rodolfo Lebrón

I feel like I missed the boat, but I would be cautious about installing flooring over a problematic surface. I may have tried to address the grout issue first, but that corner of the tile… yikes! If this is just the beginning of a bigger problem, there’s a risk that it will persist and affect your LVP flooring. I would have several questions before recommending going over the tile (like the age of the house, how long this has been happening, how widespread it is, etc). Houses settle most rapidly initially and then at a slower pace throughout their lifespan. Note: my perspective is influenced by my background as a civil engineer more than my personal DIY experience – the only room where I’ve installed LVP was on a concrete slab, and we didn’t encounter cracking or leveling issues.

Dario Petit

If the tile is level, I’d just go ahead and lay the lvp over it!

Mateo Garza

You have the option to lay over the tile. Make sure to use a quality underlayment to prevent settling and edges showing through the LVP in a few years. No need to self-level grout joints; just opt for a good ½” foam underlayment like Pergo or Lifeproof accordion style for a quicker and more cost-effective solution.

Bobby Washington

I’m thinking about adding 1/2″ of underlayment and then another 1/2″ of LVP. Do you think that will be an issue with doors and such?

Dominic Novak

William M. nelly I think it definitely will. Plus, the height of the tile is something to consider as well.

Nenad Zeljković

I would lay the lvp right on top of the tile. A quality lvp typically comes with built-in backing and waterproofing for each plank

Etienne Wilson

You can definitely go right over the tile, especially if the LVP already has an attached pad.

Dominic Novak

As someone who works with flooring professionally, I would recommend removing the tile as the best course of action.

Yann Lambert

Make sure to remove the tile properly to avoid future issues. It might take some time for a floor that size. You’ll also need to grind off the old thinset.

Johanne Larsen

Hey , what kind of problems do you think will arise? It’s actually designed to be laid over tile. Why remove the tile just to install LVP? If they’re going through the trouble of taking out the tile, they might as well consider re-tiling or hardwood flooring.

Yann Lambert

Hey , I saw your concern about tiles popping up and grout cracking. Dropping LVP over that might end up sounding like walking on boxes of corn flakes. But if the LVP manufacturer approves installing it over tile, maybe it’s worth considering? 1,000 sq ft is a bit of a risk in my opinion.

Carlos Byrd

No need to be concerned about the grout. You can lay plank flooring over the tile without any problems. Just fix the loose tiles to prevent movement noises.

Dércio Campos

I wish I had laid new tile right over the old one. Removing all the old tile is a lot of hard work! I received conflicting advice from professionals.

Storm Jørgensen

You can definitely install the new flooring directly over the tile. Just use self-leveling cement to fill the grout lines and ensure a smooth surface. Then proceed with installing LVP on top. I have a professional flooring contractor who has a lot of experience with this process.

Nemanja Srejović

I’d opt to take out the tile.

سوگند سالاری

I’ll do whatever it takes to avoid removing the tile. I’ve had to do it on a smaller area on a slab before. It was a total nightmare!

Kuzey Ozansoy

LVP can be a DIY disaster waiting to happen. Give it about 5 years and you’ll likely regret it, needing to redo the whole thing. Plus, you might discover some surprises seeping through the seams. Just a heads up so you can’t say you weren’t warned, haha. No hard feelings, I know you’ll do what you want in the end. Have a great New Year!

Marta Hidalgo

For what it’s worth, I’ve taken the easy route many times before, only to regret it later on. That’s why I now prefer starting from scratch to ensure quality work.

Cecilie Hansen

That’s right!

Sara Hansen

I completely agree with , I’ve definitely made those mistakes too and learned from them.

Joaquín de Jesús

I can relate to that! When I bought a house, I removed the old flooring and installed tile. Now, all the doors are about 1.5 inches too short.

Marta Hidalgo

I think we can all relate to that haha. It’s the typical journey of homeownership.

You start off thinking it’ll be a quick and cheap fix. Everything seems fine. You finish it, pat yourself on the back, and then suddenly you’re back at it because it’s three times the work and cost. You start questioning why you even own a house.

Eventually, you realize that cutting corners or using what’s already there just leads to more problems. So, you learn to start fresh. When a project arises, you plan for a clean slate from the beginning.

And surprisingly, starting from scratch saves time and money in the long run. It may require more prep initially, but the process becomes smoother, and the results are far better. I hate to admit it, but I’ve practically renovated every room in my house 3-4 times now 🤣. Ever since I embraced starting from scratch, I haven’t had to redo any rooms!

Marta Hidalgo

Man I understand your pain. It’s frustrating to see different flooring heights and transitions throughout a house. It’s a disaster waiting to happen when it’s time to replace it.

I’ve been assisting a friend dealing with the same issue, and it’s spiraled out of control. He only wanted wood floors in main areas, but now he’s facing gaps in doorways and entrances like you.

To add to the chaos, he didn’t plan on redoing bedrooms and bathrooms, but now all those floors are higher than the new wood flooring. What was supposed to be a simple project in the living room has become a full house renovation.

Konstanciya Yarmolyuk

In the bathrooms, they removed the ceramic and leveled the floor with underlayment. But in the sunroom, they used both leveler and underlayment before laying down the Pergo Laminate.

Cecilie Hansen

The key factor is how much the tiles stick out above the surface. To those saying you can lay new flooring over tile, that’s true, but only if the tile is on a stable, flat surface. Consider what lies beneath the tile – a slab, crawlspace, or basement? If there’s movement in the floor structure causing the subfloor to flex, it can lead to issues with the new flooring. Some vinyl planks with built-in underlayment advise against using an additional one, as it could void the warranty. It might be a hassle, but in certain cases, it’s better to remove the existing tile. Many problems with LVP flooring stem from improper subfloor preparation or not following the manufacturer’s instructions.

Lenice da Cruz

I suggest having a professional come to quote it – if only to get their input on the value of removing the tile.

Blanca Marrero

The going rate around here is $4 per square foot for removal.

Christian Crawford

Just got LVP installed on top of our tile. Saved $7000 by not ripping it out. They leveled it first, then added the LVP.

Magamir Demidchuk

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Encarnación Ramos

If the existing tile is in good condition, you can lay LVP over it. Use Mapei plani patch to fill the grout lines before installation. Most floating LVP comes with built-in backing for added convenience.

Isabel Rodriguez

We installed ours over tile and it turned out just fine. We filled any major dips (from a 120+ year old house) but left the grout lines as is. It’s been 2 years now and we haven’t experienced any problems at all.

Apollonia Mönch

You’ll also need to adjust your doors and entrance ways to accommodate the extra thickness of the new flooring on top of the tile.

Lya Arnaud

Think removing that tile is a challenge? Just wait until you have to dig through layers of concrete underneath for your new flooring.

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