I understand your point. But I can’t see why anyone would go through the trouble of doing the installation that way and neglect to install the control conductors. It’s all color-coded, so nothing to worry about.
Also, just to clarify about these enerac installations, and yes, I am aware it’s a enerac. You have the option to buy cables that contain not only the line voltage but also all the control wiring. et it all done in one go.
Hey , you don’t notice it? 😂😂 Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the code and the product you’re installing before resorting to name-calling, sir.
Hey , just because it got approved doesn’t mean it’s correct. A lot of inspectors aren’t electricians and might not understand what they’re looking at 😂😂
And as for your silly comment about ripping data off the wall, it’s actually coax and secured with 2 screws. I move them daily if they’re next to a meter, when I put my ats up. I’ve never had a customer notice or complain.
Hey lenn Mallett, what’s the deal with having an inspector who knows nothing about installations? What kind of ridiculous government are you dealing with?
Hall I attempted it, but with enerac’s strong glue and 90% humidity, it was destined to turn out poorly. The homeowner requested me to leave it as is. (2) 24kw generators powering each 200Amp main panel.
I haven’t done that yet. Every time I’ve considered it, the load calculation has been just a bit over or the homeowner wanted space for expansion so they went with dual generators.
Great job. Super neat. And yeah, they really secure those enerac decals. I’m pretty particular, we always keep spare switches in the trailer for situations like this. enerac’s quality control is terrible. Had a 26kw unit last week that was missing the main breaker 😂😂
Hall seems accurate! I found 3 faulty fuses in the right ATS from the factory and only discovered it when the battery died on Monday morning right before starting up.
Hall thanks! Dealing with this one was tough because the homeowner wanted everything in his garage and there were big pillars behind both panels and ATS units in the crawl space! That’s why you see the back-to-back 90s from left to right! I also ran that EMT a week before this installation. I wish I had waited to make it a bit tighter, but it didn’t turn out too bad!
Just a heads up, all your main grounds (cold water line, ufer ground, grounding electrode, and grounded conductor) should connect to the first disconnect point. After that, it’s a 4-wire system. It seems like you’re using the ufer ground indoors to ground the main panel, which could lead to potential ground path issues.
Hey , you need to extend your bonding jumpers and EC all the way to the ATS using a permanent method. If the inspector approved it, it’s probably because they weren’t familiar with it. I’ve been focusing on enerac installations for the past 4 years.
Ava Gagné
1 month ago
I appreciate attention to detail too.
Theo Denys
1 month ago
On my first day working in this field, I was lucky to have experienced Journeymen guiding me. If you’re just starting out, don’t blame yourself for any mistakes.
Hanna Crawford
1 month ago
It definitely takes time when it’s your first day. Just keep practicing. Eventually, it will look somewhat decent!
Holly Macrae
1 month ago
Should the surge protection be installed on the line side? I usually place it on the customer load side.
Gustavo Tejeda
1 month ago
I wonder where the conduit is leading that is coming out of the top of the ATS… where is your ground rod?
Isaac Walker
1 month ago
So now I’m seeing the surge protectors are new.
Tamara Torres
1 month ago
I really don’t think so.
Isaac Walker
1 month ago
Whether it’s a Myers hub or not, it looks like you ended up puncturing a hole right above the service wires, huh?
Suzanne Griffin
1 month ago
Oh enerac, I’ve been relieved of wiring those. I think that and tankless water heaters are like the face and hand tattoos of our trade. Can you find someone else to do it? Sure. But not me.
Douglas Craig
1 month ago
And you can see the evidence!
Jack Mackay
1 month ago
Are you sure you’re not joking? Which company/Foreman decided to put a rookie in charge of wiring the service without any experience? That’s ridiculous!
I can’t seem to find the control wiring. Do you know where it is?
Hower that’s just the usual power going in and out…seems like they only think about the generator wiring afterwards
I understand your point. But I can’t see why anyone would go through the trouble of doing the installation that way and neglect to install the control conductors. It’s all color-coded, so nothing to worry about.
Also, just to clarify about these enerac installations, and yes, I am aware it’s a enerac. You have the option to buy cables that contain not only the line voltage but also all the control wiring. et it all done in one go.
Hower the generator wires haven’t been run yet. They just completed the power transfer
Hower within the generator feed cable (
Enerator not running, just completed service change, generator was being trenched
Hower perhaps the customer is not ready to install the generator right now
Fair enough, .
No content
Seems like a code violation. Also, great job removing all the data from the wall. I’m sure the customer will appreciate the finished look 😂😂
Hall, you’re seriously clueless, man. That’s a code violation.
Hey , you don’t notice it? 😂😂 Maybe you should familiarize yourself with the code and the product you’re installing before resorting to name-calling, sir.
I’m not sure, Hall. Can you keep explaining how it passed the inspection?
You’re 😂😂👍🏻 by the way
Hey , just because it got approved doesn’t mean it’s correct. A lot of inspectors aren’t electricians and might not understand what they’re looking at 😂😂
And as for your silly comment about ripping data off the wall, it’s actually coax and secured with 2 screws. I move them daily if they’re next to a meter, when I put my ats up. I’ve never had a customer notice or complain.
I totally agree with that statement
Looks like more than just coax to me. Probably in conduit. A little more than two screws 😂😂
Not positive
In Washington state, electrical inspectors need at least 6 years of experience in the field.
5 over here in Florida.
I’ve had inspectors walk up to me and admit they have no idea what they’re looking at. Some even mentioned they are not electricians by any means.
California
Arizona
Texas
Oregon
Utah
Nevada
Well, maybe they should consider going back to school then
It’s not my place to instruct them. I’ve done my part, sir.
You know, where I’m located, you could go from being a deck hand on a shrimp boat to becoming an inspector the next day
Hey Hall, throw Virginia into the mix too haha
Hey lenn Mallett, what’s the deal with having an inspector who knows nothing about installations? What kind of ridiculous government are you dealing with?
Uy Harrelson, they are instructed on what to look for by the previous inspector.
It’s frustrating that the factory stickers didn’t line up 🤬🤬
Removing them at that point would definitely make look better
Hall
Hey , what exactly are you trying to say? Can you take a clearer picture? 😂😂
Hey , is this like a master and slave setup with a single generator on a 400Amp service?
Hall trust me, I didn’t mean to tag you in that.
Double transfer switch, yes 400 amp
Hall I attempted it, but with enerac’s strong glue and 90% humidity, it was destined to turn out poorly. The homeowner requested me to leave it as is. (2) 24kw generators powering each 200Amp main panel.
I haven’t done that yet. Every time I’ve considered it, the load calculation has been just a bit over or the homeowner wanted space for expansion so they went with dual generators.
Great job. Super neat. And yeah, they really secure those enerac decals. I’m pretty particular, we always keep spare switches in the trailer for situations like this. enerac’s quality control is terrible. Had a 26kw unit last week that was missing the main breaker 😂😂
Hall seems accurate! I found 3 faulty fuses in the right ATS from the factory and only discovered it when the battery died on Monday morning right before starting up.
I have seen a lot of issues from that company, but we have everything in stock. Still my favorite generator manufacturer though.
Hall thanks! Dealing with this one was tough because the homeowner wanted everything in his garage and there were big pillars behind both panels and ATS units in the crawl space! That’s why you see the back-to-back 90s from left to right! I also ran that EMT a week before this installation. I wish I had waited to make it a bit tighter, but it didn’t turn out too bad!
Hall it’s the same at our shop, their quality control is terrible. We are the top generac sales and generator sales in general in southwest Florida.
Here is a picture of one I worked on that turned out a bit better than yours 😂😂
Why not use a splitter, a larger transfer switch, and a bigger generator for the same house?
The meter appears to be in bad shape.
It’s not exactly perfect, Brett, but it’s definitely legitimate.
Where are the ground rods located?
Negative.
There’s a Uher in the garage, .
If you’re missing a ground, then all grounds are supposed to connect to the main disconnect before the panel.
What?
There’s a ground connected to the meter.
Just a heads up, all your main grounds (cold water line, ufer ground, grounding electrode, and grounded conductor) should connect to the first disconnect point. After that, it’s a 4-wire system. It seems like you’re using the ufer ground indoors to ground the main panel, which could lead to potential ground path issues.
Hey , you need to extend your bonding jumpers and EC all the way to the ATS using a permanent method. If the inspector approved it, it’s probably because they weren’t familiar with it. I’ve been focusing on enerac installations for the past 4 years.
I appreciate attention to detail too.
On my first day working in this field, I was lucky to have experienced Journeymen guiding me. If you’re just starting out, don’t blame yourself for any mistakes.
It definitely takes time when it’s your first day. Just keep practicing. Eventually, it will look somewhat decent!
Should the surge protection be installed on the line side? I usually place it on the customer load side.
I wonder where the conduit is leading that is coming out of the top of the ATS… where is your ground rod?
So now I’m seeing the surge protectors are new.
I really don’t think so.
Whether it’s a Myers hub or not, it looks like you ended up puncturing a hole right above the service wires, huh?
Oh enerac, I’ve been relieved of wiring those. I think that and tankless water heaters are like the face and hand tattoos of our trade. Can you find someone else to do it? Sure. But not me.
And you can see the evidence!
Are you sure you’re not joking? Which company/Foreman decided to put a rookie in charge of wiring the service without any experience? That’s ridiculous!
The meter appears to be low